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Ranger Duster?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:14 pm
by Eärendur
So this is something I've been thinking about for a while, so I thought I would ask you guys.

In FOTR, Strider wears a long leather coat sometimes referred to as a "duster" (shows up throughout, but maybe more prominent in FOTR).

Reference pics here: http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Hum ... Duster.htm

My question is, what is the historical/utilitarian background for such an article of clothing?

Personally, I think it looks really cool, and I have been intending to make one once I have the extra cash, but beyond making a cool movie replica, what is the basis for this in rangering?

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:28 pm
by Straelbora
Eärendur wrote:So this is something I've been thinking about for a while, so I thought I would ask you guys.

In FOTR, Strider wears a long leather coat sometimes referred to as a "duster" (shows up throughout, but maybe more prominent in FOTR).

Reference pics here: http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Hum ... Duster.htm

My question is, what is the historical/utilitarian background for such an article of clothing?

Personally, I think it looks really cool, and I have been intending to make one once I have the extra cash, but beyond making a cool movie replica, what is the basis for this in rangering?
I associate dusters with American cowboys, circa 1875-1900. They probably predate that era, but I really don't think of them as medieval in any way.

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:55 pm
by Ringulf
When you say the word "Duster", I think Austrailian or cowboy/Civil war, most readily, but to be honest, the duster pattern leans more to a long split coat for trail riding, and or an additional, but integral mantle-like cape around the shoulders.
To be fair, Ararorn's has niether really. I would say that his garb would be classified as a long coat, which, though not as popular in Hollywood medeival fashion, is very much period in many of the cultures and time frames used by Tolkien to establish the look and feel of his world.
So the "Duster", per se, may be a bit of a stretch, but capes, mantles, hoods and coats have always been combined to fit the needs of the individual and a good case could be made that what we see as a "Duster" could be an amalgam of these. :mrgreen:

Be creative Tolkien was and he is the only "Authentic" source on middle Earth! :wink:

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:32 pm
by Manveruon
Yeah, Ringulf basically nailed it. I do think there is a historical basis in the Viking era for long leather coats of a similar design though. At least I seem to remember seeing some reenactors wearing things of that nature.

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:52 pm
by Ringulf
And a Scottish Drover's coat from the 17th-18th century (not far afeild of the time period used to set the Hobbit culture is very similar to this.

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:27 pm
by caedmon
It has long been my supposition that clothing and culture in the North fits best as a medievalized 18th century. Aragorn's coat fits this well, try thinking of it as a 13th c. tailor's interpretation of an early 1700's frock coat.

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:06 am
by Eledhwen
I think the duster was PJ and his crew being creative. Long coats have a long pedigree, true, and if that is what you want to do with your impression, have at it.

Nothing and no one here will give you any grief over it.

Eledhwen

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:03 pm
by Mirimaran
I agree with the above. I used the Born of Hope method, went out to a thrift store and bought an old long leather coat, took it apart and rebuilt it. I wear it for the Ren faire but it is comfy :) and now that we have the Hobbit movie you have even more options! Kili's coat looks like it would be fun to imitate.

Ken

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Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:39 pm
by Ringulf
Great pics Ken, I am so happy to see your stuff up again!
I missed you Brother!
:mrgreen:

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:14 pm
by Mirimaran
Ringulf wrote:Great pics Ken, I am so happy to see your stuff up again!
I missed you Brother!
:mrgreen:
Aw thanks friend Ringulf, I miss you too! :) I need to take more pics, and dig out the rest of my Bombadil stuff for Greg :) I always love seeing your projects!

Ken

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:43 pm
by Beornmann
The duster is Ngila Dickson and Richard Taylor's version or image of Strider.

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:14 am
by appalachianranger
I actually always thought Aragorn's ranger coat was more based upon the tailcoats of the Elizabethan era looking at the design. In fact, I can remember watching Frank Miller's The Crucible in high school after reading the book and being struck at how Daniel Day Lewis' John Proctor looked entirely too similar to Viggo Mortenson's Aragorn for it to be coincidence.
While the internet seems sorely lacking in good screenshots, I noticed especially in the climactic "God is Dead!" scene Proctor's coat almost seems the early prototype for Aragorn's duster.
Of course there is a very good chance Mr Lewis' duster was not historically accurate either...

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:44 pm
by Mirimaran
For those of you with a little extra jingle, here is Potomac Leather's version, which Eric and I saw a couple years ago at the Loch Norman Highland Games. Very impressive in person, but expensive!
http://www.potomacleather.com/PL_Ranger.htm

Ken

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:46 pm
by E.MacKermak
While the term "duster" conjures up images of 19th century cowboys, long coats date back quite a while. The Rus (Vikings who settled in Kiev and Novgorod) had a couple of long coat designs, some of which fasten in the middle like modern coats. It would not be a stretch for you to have one as part of your kit if you want it. Like it was said, no one here is likely to give you any grief over it.

Re: Ranger Duster?

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:47 am
by Gondian
I've actually been tossing this idea around as well, and started doing some research, and came up with the same viking info. I have a ton of "scrap"
leather laying around and thought maybe something with a hood? What ya thing fellow rangers?